We find the three friends of Job sitting with him at the end of a long discussion that seems to be weighty and important. No doubt they are some distance away from his bad breath (19:17) but they had come to bring him comfort in his affliction. When the Lord shows up in a whirlwind (38:1), He doesn't take sides with anyone in the discussion but poses a number of questions.
"Who are you people that are jabbering nonsense in the midst of an adult discussion? Put your big boy Underoos on and play a round of divine Jeopardy with Me and We will see what you really know!" (38:2-3).
Look at how easily anyone can refute the nonsense of Calvin who claimed to know what the secret counsels of God were before the foundation of the world. The calvinists want to make people believe that God chose them personally before the foundation of the world. They also want to make people believe that they can tell which of us are rejects and refuse. Notice, again, that their claim is that they KNOW what happened before the foundation of the world.
"Where were you when I laid the foundation of the world? Remind me of the discussion we had at that time..." (38:4).
God invites Job to discuss the mechanics of creating the cosmos. Implicit in His question to Job is that God did not take Job's perspective into consideration at that point in time since Job did not exist. Humans are not eternal beings; we are adapted to the eternal realm in Christ Jesus. Notice that God is not asking Job to step into the eternal realm and talk about things that happened before the foundation of the world. He is talking to the mere man about the actual work of creation. What happened before the foundation of the world cannot be discussed with mortals until later...until Jesus becomes one of us.
Calvinists go off the rails by making up fantasies about discussions in the eternal realm that they have never heard. They have no more capability than Job to discuss the creation of the world, much less the "secret counsels" of God in "eternity past". If you don't know where the corners of the earth are fastened, who can trust your calvinist Myah Myah about being personally chosen for salvation (or that the rest of us were personally chosen to burn in Hell) at a time when you and Calvin didn't exist.
When Jesus does come to mention the mysteries from the foundation of the world (NOT from before the foundation of the world - Matthew 13:35), they turn out to be parables: designed to be hidden from the members of the Myah Myah factory. Jesus Christ is loved by the Father (John 17:24) from before the foundation of the world, chosen (Ephesians 1:4) before the foundation of the world, and established as the relationship by which humans may enter into the love of the Father (1Peter 1:3-20) before the foundation of the world. No created or derivative human that was made by the merely human procreative process was hand picked by God before the foundation of the world. To do so would bypass Jesus and what He was chosen to do. Salvation is only made available to us in time (1 Peter 1:20). That time came when Jesus shed His saving blood for all humans. That time was the cross.
Come to the cross.
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